Welcome to our Leadership at the Edge podcast.

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Tune in to the final episode of Leadership at the Edge for 2023 as our CEO John Mark Williams, and Founder of The Maverick Paradox Judith Germain, discuss all things maverick leadership, focusing on such topics as:
  • Embracing intellectual disobedience,
  • The difference between implementation vs execution, and 
  • Disciplined rebellion against the system
Don't miss out on these insightful discussions and a lot more.



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John Mark Williams

CEO at The Institute of Leadership.


Judith Germain

Founder of The Maverick Paradox, Maverick Paradox Media and Author


See you next year!


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